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[视频]“健康教母”马悦凌:神医?忽悠?

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http://news.cntv.cn/society/20110709/109044.shtml
 
人生如梦如幻.

成也媒体,败也媒体
 
谁在误导大众?


貌似不仅仅是马教母吧?

但现在看来,只有一个人买单
 
马悦凌:又一个“张悟本”式的养生大师?



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真是前仆后继啊!
在这样的大忽悠的事实面前,竟然有很多不辨真假的学过中医理论的人
有的人连“返老还童”的刘云都深信不疑,信这些养生的小巫,也就不足为奇了
 
[转帖]我是一名西医,我对马悦凌的养生思想持支持态度 Post By:2011/7/9 17:20:00


在西医里,理论上,如果一个人的免疫功能如果能够正常工作,身体会自动抵御很多疾病的,即使得了一些疾病,在你身体免疫系统(包括内环境)重新正常工作后确实能自愈,我们西医不否认这一点,当然不代表所有的疾病,毕竟医学像宇宙一样浩瀚有无数未知的东西。
我非常认可马悦凌对大众养生(只要是食疗)普及所作出的贡献。
当然,我对于马悦凌宣称能治疗很多世界性难题的疾病有所疑问,因为我毕竟没有去见证整个过程。
没有调查就没有发言权。我希望媒体不要在马悦凌是否有行医资质上大做文章(再死揪住这一点炒来炒去无疑当我们读者是傻子),而是去深入的调查治病事件的真实过程是否属实,还大家一个真相。
最后,我也奉劝某些跨国制药大鳄和制药利益集团,这些年来你们一直用钱来控制媒体对中医进行打压,你们铺天盖地的健康知识宣传(很多是片面的、鼓励用药的,而忽视了防病养生)也迷惑了大量有知识有文化的中国人。我是西医,我用西医的理论来给人治病,但是我始终认为,如果每个人都注重养生、注重自己身体的环境平衡,我们西医就不会那么忙碌,很多人也不会走到最后一步——需要西医这这种对身体有创的治疗来挽救你的健康。
 
都没有自己自主的认知吗? 媒体说啥就啥?

对错与否,看效果 - 中医理论固然 高明 , 但也只是 理论的 一种, 实践出真知。 且 ,素问灵枢 不会是医院里那些 望闻问切的 医生 可以写出来的。

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相比马悦凌的敢于探索,勇于实践 和 仁心 和用心,包括自建交流网站,易读读物的出版,使受益的人多多。 传统的只是死读书本墨守陈规偏安一隅不会与时俱进的坐堂中医应该汗颜。 -- 也许中医当下的被西药财团攻城略地随意打压 并非偶然,而是历史的必然-散沙一盘。


中医需要出个毛主席式的领袖,组织起一批人,解放全中国。

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“望子成龙”、“望女成凤”的五步曲
-- 马悦凌

马悦凌的很多方法 真正是 上工治未病 ,强身健体,防治病患于未然,从小孩成长的时候就抓起。

医院里的医生顶多是 ‘中工治已病’。

若可推而广之,全国小孩都气血充足,不易生病了。

上医医国,中医医人,下医医病。
 
脊髓横断一年两个月的截瘫病人,只用5天的时间就站立、行走了
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激动人心的消息,6个月80岁老爸前列腺癌晚期彻底康复
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奇迹在一个得了晚期前列腺癌80岁老爸身上发生
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记我老爸生病的全过程
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养生让我们全家健康快乐
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俺老爸的近照
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我与老爸游世博
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拉了半年之久的肚子彻底搞定了
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[原创]老公患脑胶质瘤调理后我们不再恐惧和无奈!
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帮同事和朋友调制心梗塞,不亦乐乎!
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盲目养生酿囊肿 马氏疗法显神效
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癌症,我不再惧怕你
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求医不如求己——一个白血病患者的自白
http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs_47_67755_0_1_1.html

汇报一年的养生成果
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困扰我多年的失眠拜拜啦
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给马老师的一封公开信

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天津病人百废待兴 问诊单

http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs_53_105768.html



我的健康和护肤日记

http://http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs_8_21289.html



[原创]肥~是这样减的(看我如何运用马老师里学到的方法,从140成功的减到117)

http://http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs_8_98814.html



正确学习马悦凌气血养生四步曲

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美食在心中,欢乐在家中!

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[分享]将食疗进行到底.(我的健康养生日记)

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重塑健康(记录我的点滴,请你来“找茬”)

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养生日记从今天开始

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菲妞的养生日记

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马老师我永远感激您

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无意中拔罐把多年的湿疹彻底治愈了

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[原创]减肥养生日记!坚持~

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用豆渣洗澡 感觉好极了

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我治好了灰指甲

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半年的养生给我带来了健康、开心和幸福

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我的脚变滋润了

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老妈养生记

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我是这样排了寒湿的

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面子让老妈安心养生

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再仔细也不为过

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感悟养生温暖、聆听身体呼唤

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人生态度与养生

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身体冷暖人自知

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去医院的感触

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坚定自己的养生信念

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养生是一种习惯

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无梦之眠,真棒!

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养生真幸福!

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撞墙新感受

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我刮痧,我做主

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老公养生趣事

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高三女生的养生成效

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养生后身体情况有了好的改善

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养生的又一意外收获

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我的胃怎么又疼了

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养生让我们更理智更聪明

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如何赶走体内之滞气

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从女儿的痛经经历谈养生

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也谈经期撞墙

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神奇!我的小手指居然能伸直了!

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又传喜讯

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八十天,马老师让我尝到了甜果果

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胆结石一个偏方就搞定

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按老师计划一周成果问题汇总~(已回复)

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又试生土豆真管用!

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我们按马老师的养生法养生一年的收获

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我女儿把“当归粉”叫“神仙粉”

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充分发挥生姜的作用

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初用马老师的左右对称按摩巧治病

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神奇的土豆

http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=7&ID=101758&replyID=&skin=1



头发白得早,不会是遗传.(食疗二个月的结论)

http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=8&ID=102359&replyID=&skin=1



[原创]肥~是这样减的(看我如何运用马老师<不生病的智慧>里学到的方法,从140成功的减到117)

http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=8&ID=98814&replyID=&skin=1



报喜来了,同学终于备孕成功了

http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=31&ID=102408&replyID=&skin=1



食疗让我身上患的各种慢性炎症逐渐康复

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短短几天 气色变好了

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我的2010年的小小回顾!

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固元膏,我的最爱!(快速补血奇兵)

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莫莫求健康之路

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长假规律打乱,昨夜背部走罐及时防病魔(多亏了有马老师)

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[原创]今天臀部走罐了,哇,痛就一个字

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[原创]我不反对生吃泥鳅

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顽固性牙周炎终于十天搞定,没含姜,没吃药

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发现嘴唇不起泡的小方法

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[原创]初战告捷——记养生两月卵巢囊肿消掉的经过,狂喜中!!!

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[原创]健康养生融入到生活中

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[原创]自己治好了胃胀

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[原创]关于非经期出血治疗的一点小感悟

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感谢马医生,肾炎有好转!

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血尿患者调理半年后的身体变化

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[分享]吃黄鳝彻底治愈荨麻疹

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[分享]运用马老师的感冒、发热速治法,很有效

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[分享]养生“走火入魔”

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治疗腰疼的实践及各种养生方法的体验

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养生真好

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乳腺癌已化疗几次,认真养生一年多,现已基本康复

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我用艾熏治好了儿子的鼻炎

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感谢马老师的书帮助了十多年慢性肾炎的好转

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[原创]坚持马氏养生恢复快

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[原创]马老师您辛苦了!(马老师也给我打电话了)

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我做的生姜红糖水冲鸡蛋

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[原创]我的脚被开水烫了

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[原创]儿子味口越来越好了

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[原创]马老师的固元膏比我自己做的好吃多了

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面部刮痧,一夜痘痘全消

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为自制固元膏和订购马老师的固元膏算一笔帐

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给孩子用生姜红糖水治感冒的妈妈们注意了,一定要大量喝白开水

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在实践中前进,记录养生点滴

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实践养生,让孩子远离疾病

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大蒜敷脚心一次,就止住了鼻血

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把不生病的智慧带给更多的人

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养生让我们全家健康快乐

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真的不敢再贪凉了

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神了,神了,我脸上多年的白点不见了

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今天同事说我:马悦凌迷。嘿嘿,我就是

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最简单的制作艾叶水泡脚方法

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今天帮同事刮痧后的体会

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健康养生,让我变化无穷

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艾条——已成为我们全家人的好朋友

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拉了半年之久的肚子彻底搞定了

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养生前后的选择大对比

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泡脚中的一大新发现

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养生后身体情况有了好的改善 作者:柳丝飘飘

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用身体的健康和好转来证明作者:柳丝飘飘http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=44&ID=149407&replyID=&skin=1



感悟养生温暖、聆听身体呼唤 作者:柳丝飘飘http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=44&ID=109422&replyID=&skin=1



我的脚变滋润了 作者:柳丝飘飘http://www.mayueling.com/bbs/dispbbs.asp?BoardID=8&ID=95678&replyID=&skin=1

半年的养生给我带来了健康、开心和幸福 作者:柳丝飘飘

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坚定自己的养生信念作者:柳丝飘飘

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无梦之眠,真棒! 作者:柳丝飘飘

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养生真幸福! 作者:柳丝飘飘

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撞墙新感受 作者:柳丝飘飘

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养生的意外收获作者:柳丝飘飘

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我的胃怎么又疼了 作者:柳丝飘飘

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养生让我们更理智更聪明 作者:柳丝飘飘

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擅作主张的教训作者:柳丝飘飘

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如何赶走体内之滞气 作者:柳丝飘飘

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从女儿的痛经经历谈养生作者:柳丝飘飘

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做面膜的感想以及新的尝试 作者:柳丝飘飘

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神奇!我的小手指居然能伸直了! 作者:柳丝飘飘

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又传喜讯作者:柳丝飘飘

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八十天,马老师让我尝到了甜果果作者:柳丝飘飘

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做1%的坚持者 作者:北京四月蔷薇

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养身两月后怀孕,已经进入孕中期了,记录了点滴,并感谢马老师!作者:爱美乔乔

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[原创]红糖姜水治好了我的排卵期出血作者:se_mon

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脸上白皙有光泽了!作者:祺山怪林

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[分享]我终于不长痘了! 作者:祺山怪林

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我两年多的子宫功能性出血奇迹般的治好了 作者:尝试

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咳嗽的终结者——白果红枣水!作者:蓝冻冻

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[转帖]马老师访谈‘健康教母’马悦凌,独家披露养生经作者:蓝冻冻

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开学第一课——灵活运用马氏理论击退高烧!作者:蓝冻冻

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《走进科学》,是否科学? 作者:蓝冻冻

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都是空调惹的祸!作者:蓝冻冻

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小儿鼻炎的调理方法 作者:蓝冻冻

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通过养生宝贝一年长高8公分!作者:蓝冻冻

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事实决定态度!作者:蓝冻冻

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我的长发护理秘笈(有真人版图片为证哦)! 作者:蓝冻冻

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出汗驱寒来看看! 作者:蓝冻冻

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马老师的关爱无处不在!(有照片哦) 作者:蓝冻冻

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[原创]总结宝贝不再生病的经验! 作者:蓝冻冻

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从爱美的花蝴蝶到勤劳的小蜜蜂-蓝冻冻的转变作者:蓝冻冻

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女神的天籁之音-马老师来电话啦! 作者:蓝冻冻

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[原创]宝贝睡得香香,妈妈睡得美美,有妙招哦! 作者:蓝冻冻

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新世纪新偶像! 作者:蓝冻冻

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[原创]总结给宝贝退烧的经验作者:蓝冻冻

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[原创]真实体验,缓解乳房疼痛的妙招! 作者:蓝冻冻

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吃了固元膏,黑发飘呀飘! 作者:蓝冻冻

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神奇之水-大蒜水! 作者:蓝冻冻

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见招拆招,击退发烧.(谴责没有职业道德的医生) 作者:蓝冻冻

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花椒酒打败了骨科专家 作者:蓝冻冻

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海虾治好了姐姐的晕车! 作者:蓝冻冻

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改变我们全家生活的意外的收获 作者:蓝冻冻

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卵巢早衰闭经七年的我看到了希望 作者:xinmei

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艾薰出好气色 作者:小玫

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她的咳嗽一次艾薰治愈作者:小玫

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刚才终于在脚底注射当归啦!作者:hmzsl

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每天坚持“生姜红枣桂圆红糖水+鸡蛋茸”赶走痛经作者:Emmachen

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要有自己的主见 ,不要媒体说黑就是黑,说白就是白, 何况现在媒体的人都是给钱就能上的。
 
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